Another cold start...(If y’all aren’t sick of these yet...)

Kinja'd!!! "JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t" (jawzx2)
01/06/2018 at 14:14 • Filed to: it'scold

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I tried a no-block-heater start when it was 10F (positive) and ran the battery 1/2 dead cranking without result... but when you plug it in, even -13F is pretty easy...


DISCUSSION (6)


Kinja'd!!! gettingoldercarguy > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
01/06/2018 at 15:17

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Two things:

https ://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/fuel-additives/diesel/diesel-cold-flow/?code=ADDCN-EA

And

https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/fuel-additives/diesel/diesel-recovery-emergency-fuel-treatment/?code=DRCCN-EA


Kinja'd!!! JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > gettingoldercarguy
01/06/2018 at 16:23

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I use the Power Service stuff

http://powerservice.com/psp_product/diesel-fuel-supplement-cetane-boost/

have only needed the Emergency Treatment once, I use plenty of the anti-gel. Fuel gelling isn’t the problem, hydraulic fluid viscosity (hydraulic pump is not disengageable on the 1720) and lack of combustion chamber heat are the problem. Without the block heater (actually a full-on coolant pre-warmer) the glow plugs won’t hold enough heat to maintain combustion. It was starting to cough and try on the 10+ day, but I knew I wasn’t going to be running it long enough to make the battery happy after that effort, and I just plugged it in... I may spring the $400+ it’ll cost to put full-synthetic hydraulic fluid in it next change, that should really do wonders for both cold starts and the life of the bypass valves... (I already run full-synthetic engine oil)  


Kinja'd!!! Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
01/06/2018 at 17:00

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Hey man: I was born in Burlington and my mother lives in White River Junction, for what those factoids are worth. (And I now live in the San Francisco Bay Area of California...)

I enjoyed that video, and FM radio in the tractor? Roughin’ it.

If I moved to Thirteen Below Land tomorrow, and I owned a tractor like yours, every drop of oil, hydraulic fluid and grease would be full synthetic because I could feel proud of myself each time I used it and it worked better because synthetic. Heck: it might even be worth moving to Thirteen Below Land because tractor!

What is the wattage draw of that engine heater?


Kinja'd!!! JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
01/06/2018 at 17:56

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I had gathered that your mom was in WRJct from other posts, didn’t know you were born in Burlington though! How long did you live here before heading west?

Yeah, when I bought it it had JUST had a full service, including fresh hydraulic fluid and filter, the recommended changer interval is every 300 hours, and I’m just coming up on 250 since I got it... This summer It will be due again, and like I said, I might spring for the full synthetic... it’s just that 7.5 gallons of full-synthetic hydraulic fluid is a bit on the spendy side ;)

I think the heater is 600 watts (or maybe 1000?), and it’s a coolant-immersion heater, not a block/oil heater, so it gets to all the areas where coolant flows... works damn well.

re: FM radio in tractor cab: It’s also bluetooth and hands-free ;) one does what they must....


Kinja'd!!! Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
01/06/2018 at 18:24

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Wow; I’m wondering what might have given Mom’s location away, not that I feel the need to hide it.

I would think at 600-1000 watts, it’s more of a leave-it-plugged-in design and 90 minutes wouldn’t do much. Is there a pump to circulate the coolant?


Kinja'd!!! functionoverfashion > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
01/06/2018 at 20:41

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We used to have a couple small diesel tractors at the marina and they would not love starting in sub-zero temps, but could be convinced most of the time. The big forklift would not budge below about 10F, even with a block heater.

We had a gas-engined forklift that was a bit cold-blooded but would eventually run. One time we got it running but it would stall almost right away, over and over. It turned out that the hydraulic fluid had water in it, so it was frozen. It ran perfectly for a few seconds until the hydraulic pump tried to turn ice, and couldn’t, then bam. That was interesting.